David Grutman
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Podcast Appearances
Okay.
But you know what?
There'll be 50 other times that I'm going to have dinner with this person.
And, you know, okay, maybe one time.
Who cares?
But people know.
Yeah.
By the way, you sit so much more powerful with that celebrity or that person by not doing that than doing it.
It elevates you on a different level than just, hey, do you mind?
But then when it comes time that you need some help, hey, Kim, can you do a forward for me after 20-something years?
Do you mind?
No, no problem.
And listen, everyone's different.
Some people want to do content with you.
They're like, Dave, please, let's do something fun.
Let's do something great.
Great.
Happy to.
By the way, awesome.
And some people just don't.