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David Hoffman

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

So Drift hasn't come out with a way to remunerate users.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

Drift was not a huge perps protocol in the scheme of all perps protocols.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

They were kind of like top 30, but they were the biggest, I think, on Solana, at least one of the largest on Solana.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

And as you said, I mean, this ranks as one of the biggest hacks ever, certainly the largest on Solana.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

This reminded me a little bit of the Ronin sidechain hack.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

Do you remember 625 million?

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

That was in 2022.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

That was also a multi-sig type hack, social engineering, compromised keys.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

Like these multi-sigs are, they are just hazardous for protocols to have in place, right?

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

And I mean, what are the lessons that we learned from this?

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

Certainly, even if you have a multi-sig, there are better ways to design it.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

It was only a two of five, right?

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

You could do a five of seven or something like this.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

There's all sorts of time delays, all sorts of things you could have done.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

I think another lesson learned is the social engineering behind these hacks is getting crazy sophisticated.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

Right.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

So how they got these signers to actually sign, I don't know if that's completely known, but it could be like supply chain attacks where like there's some kind of code library that they downloaded as a dependencies now infected their machine.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

I mean, if you're a multi-sig signer, you should be concerned with your setup at all times and be paranoid about it.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

David, there was something that big that came out of ECC this week that caught my eye.

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ROLLUP: Google’s Quantum Warning | Trump’s Iran Speech | Ethereum Economic Zones | Drift Hack

I want to tell you about it.