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David Hoffman

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

But I personally just view that as a floor.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And what that does with the floor is because like the way people value these things is they do an expected value calculation.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So if there's a 50% chance that ETH is going to $2,000 and a 50% chance that it's going to $4,000, then the fair price is $3,000.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So what the intrinsic value floor does is it gives you a very high bear case, which allows you to speculate on the monetary premium more freely.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Whereas Bitcoin doesn't really have this.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And gold is like 10% of the total value.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So you have to really believe in the monetary premium.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

but because it's cheaper to speculate on Ethereum's monetary premium, that actually accelerates it because people can bet more freely on like the, uh, like most people that hold it right now are probably only valuing it based on fees, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Um,

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So if now all of a sudden the monetary premium starts being incorporated into the expected value calculation of the bull price, more and more people will speculate on that.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And like that's how it's kind of worked throughout history is like when people speculate on what's going to be like the new money kind of like all the time or not all the time, but like it accelerates.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

there's an advantage to like more of like in the origins of kind of money is like, like beads versus tobacco, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Like if you think tobacco is going to be debased and you switch to gold, the earlier you are to that trend, the more purchasing power you'll maintain, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And that actually accelerates speculation, accelerates the convergence.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And basically the intrinsic value floor lowers the cost of speculation.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And one more point there on... Because I think it's worth, like, steelmanning the Bitcoin argument of, like, why ETH isn't money and why that's changed, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So, like, the core thing that Bitcoiners will argue is that, like, money, if you're storing your entire wealth in it, like an asset like gold, it shouldn't change, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So...

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So Bitcoiners have always kind of like prioritize near term stability and not changing the protocol for at the expense of long term viability.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And I think Ethereum has done the opposite.