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David Hoffman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2256 total appearances

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So if you take Ether and it becomes a version of staked Ether, that doesn't matter.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

magically turn it into a security it's still not a security it's still a crypto commodity also wrapping non-security assets if you wrap an asset you know bitcoin you turn that into wrapped bitcoin in some way that's also not a security this is all clarity that we didn't have previously that we now have it's kind of like wrapping we all intuitively knew that like wrapping doesn't do anything to an asset this is like a technical thing it shouldn't it's common sense

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

But we still needed them to say the words.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

I know because you didn't know whether Gary Gensler was going to drop a Wells notice on you just because you wrapped a token or you received an airdrop.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

They also touched on the Howey test too.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

That's right.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

And this is very similar to the XRP, sorry, the Ripple versus the SEC case, which is basically before you released XRP and you made these investment contracts, Ripple was a security.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

But then it turned into a commodity once the network was launched, once the managerial efforts were concluded, and once it was available on the market.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

It's almost like, and this was the judge's position, the asset itself was never the security, just the deal around it was.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So again, more common sense with respect to the Howey test.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

But that's not all.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So this was an incredible taxonomy.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

Oh wait, there's more.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

Yes.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So Kira Atkins also, in his remarks, he provided a, he hoped to provide, so he specified, a safe harbor for token issuers.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So there were three components to this.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

Startup exemptions, fundraising exemptions, investment contract safe harbor.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

What are these?

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

So this would have protected something like the original Ethereum ICO, let's say, where you can raise under one of these safe harbors.

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ROLLUP: Crypto Momentum | Regime Shift? | Payments War | Prediction Boom | SBF on Netflix

And then within 12 months, say it's less than $75 million to raise, you have a path to releasing this as a commodity asset rather than a security.