David Hsu

For instance, if you have someone who's coding a tool and they're going to release that into production,

How do you maintain the quality when that person might not understand the best practices of what an engineer would know?

That's awesome.

That's so interesting.

So tell us about AppGen, which is your new tool to address this wave of non-coding creators.

What is that and how does it work?

Yeah, I bet it is.

That's awesome.

What I like about this is I heard this great quote.

I think it was today from Mike Maples on the Matt Berman podcast.

He said something to the effect of we talk a lot about agents, but the real unlock for AI is how high agency humans are using AI to get stuff done.

And I really like that.

I think it fits with what y'all are doing.

Um, so who, who do you really think will be like app gen users?

Like who will be the first one?

Is it operations?

Is it finance?

Is it product?

Um, and, and how should we think about how they're using this to get stuff done?

You've kind of addressed that, but.