David Jones

Hang on, let me just take this back.

That's blue.

That's the blue.

So that is.

But that for me still looks like the top of the shoulder, almost the side of the shoulder, I would say.

Sven?

See, because it's actually not touching him now, I would say.

And that's the one, isn't it?

Well, you're running on now and you see Michael Oliver with Tyron Mings.

They come together.

He says they're leaning in.

What Tyron Mings actually says now is... Where Tyron Mings says it hits him, it doesn't hit him.

He's actually talking about... He's touching his purple.

It's probably in between both what they're saying, actually.

It is, it is.

no chance no I think it's very harsh I think a few weeks ago there was a couple of situations I think at Burnley with Bournemouth one I think Billing was involved in one and there was someone at the back post one of the full backs as well and they were really poor decisions on that so that's why I was convinced this one wouldn't be given because on the back of that there was a lot of criticism and I felt maybe they got those ones wrong but

Michael Oliver is the top referee.

Again, you go back to do VAR at times, want to overturn decisions from the top referees in the league.

That's always been a debate since the start of the season.

My big problem is, and I've been an advocate of VAR before it came in this season, at times it's frustrated me.