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David Kipping

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

any serious connection of planet binarity to habitability.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Certainly when we investigated it, that wasn't our drive, that this is somehow the solution to life in the universe or anything.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It was really just, like all good science questions, a curiosity-driven question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

What's the dynamic?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Are they legit orbiting each other as they orbit the star?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So the formation mechanism proposed here, because it is very difficult to form two protoplanets close to each other like this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

They would generally merge within the disk, and so that's why you normally get single planets.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But you could have something like Jupiter and Saturn form at separate distances.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

They could dynamically be scattered in towards one another and basically not quite collide, but have a very close-on encounter.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Now because tidal forces increase dramatically as the distance decreases between two objects, the tides can actually dissipate the kinetic energy and bring them bound into one another.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So that seems...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

When you first hear that, you think, well, that seems fairly contrived that you'd have the conditions just right to get these tides to cause a capture.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But numerical simulations have shown that about 10% of planet-planet encounters are shown to produce something like binary planets, which is a startling prediction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so that seems at odds with, naively, the exoplanet catalogue, for which we know of

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

so far, no binary planets.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And we propose one of the resolutions to this might be that the binary planets are just incredibly difficult to detect, which is also counterintuitive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Remember how they form is through this tidal mechanism, and so they form extremely close to each other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So the distance that Io is away from Jupiter, just a few planetary radii, they're almost touching one another, and they're just tidally locked facing each other for eternity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so in that configuration,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

as it transits across the star, it kind of looks like you can't really resolve those two planets.