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David Kipping

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So we asked for Hubble Space Telescope time, which was awarded in that case.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

We were one of those lucky 20 that got telescope time, and we stared at it for about 40 hours continuously.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

To provide some context, the dip that we saw in the Kepler data corresponded to a Neptune-sized Moon around a Jupiter-sized planet, which was another reason why I was skeptical.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I was like, we don't have that in the Solar System.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

That seems so strange.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And then when we got the Hubble data,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It seemed to confirm exactly that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

There were two really striking pieces of evidence in the data that suggested this Moon was there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Another was a fairly clear second dip in light, pretty clearly resolved by Hubble.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It was about a 5-sigma detection.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And on top of that, we could see the planet didn't transit when it should have done.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It actually transited earlier than we expected it to, by about 20 minutes or so.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so that's a hallmark of a gravitational interaction between the planet and the Moon.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

We actually expected that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

You can also expect that if the Moon transits after the planet,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

then the planet should come in earlier than expected because the barycenter, the center of mass, lives between the two of them, kind of like on a balancing arm between them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so we saw that as well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So the phase signature matched up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

The mass of the Moon was measured to be Neptune mass.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

and the size of the Moon was measured to be Neptune radius.