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David Kipping

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so as a scientist, we have to be so guarded against our own egos.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

You see the lights in your eyes of a Nobel Prize or the fame and fortune and being remembered in the history books.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And we all

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

grew up in our training learning about Newton and Einstein, these giants of the field, Feynman, Maxwell.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And you get the idea of these individual contributions which get immortalized for all time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And that's seductive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It's why many of us with the skill set to go into maybe banking instead decided,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Actually, there's something about the idea of being immortalized and contributing towards society in a permanent way that is more attractive than the financial reward of applying my skills elsewhere.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So to some degree, that ego can be a benefit because it brings in skillful people into our field who might otherwise be tempted by money elsewhere.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

On the other hand, the closer you get towards when you start flirting with that Nobel Prize in your eyes, or you think you're on the verge of seeing something, you can lose objectivity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

A very famous example of this is Barnard's star.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

There was a planet claimed there by Pieter van de Kamp, I think it was in 1968-69.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

At the time, it would have been the first ever exoplanet ever claimed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

He felt assured that this planet was there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

He was actually using the wobbling star method, but using the positions of the stars to see them to claim this exoplanet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It turned out that this planet was not there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Subsequent analyses by both dynamicists and theorists and those looking at the instrumental data established fairly unanimously that there was no way this planet was really there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But Peter van der Kamp insisted it was there despite overwhelming evidence that was accruing against him.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And even to the day he died, which was I think in the early 90s, he was still insisting this planet was there, even when we were starting to make the first genuine exoplanet discoveries.