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David Kipping

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I mean, I try to, as fun as it is to get into the speculation about the definitions of life and what life does and this gross network of possibilities, honestly, for me, the strongest argument for remaining agnostic

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

is to avoid that bias in assessing data.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Percival Lowell I talked about on my channel maybe last year or two years ago, he's a very famous astronomer who in the 19th century was claiming the evidence of canals on Mars.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And from him, from his perspective, and even at the time culturally, it was widely accepted that Mars would, of course, have life.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I mean, I think it seems silly to us, but it was kind of similar arguments to what we're using now about exoplanets that, well, of course, there must be life in the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

How could it just be here?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so it seemed obvious to people that when you looked at Mars with its polar caps,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Its atmosphere had seasons.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It seemed obvious to them that that too would be a place where life not only was present but had emerged to a civilization which actually was fairly comparable in technology to our own because it was building canal systems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Of course, the canal system seems a bizarre technosignature to us, but it was a product of their time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

To them, that was the cutting edge in technology.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It should be a warning shot actually a little bit for us that if we think solar panels or building star links or...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

whatever, space mining is like an inevitable technosignature, that may be laughably antiquated compared to what other civilizations far more advanced than us may be doing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so anyway, Percival Lowell, I think, was a product of his time that he thought life was there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Inevitably, he even wrote about it extensively.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so when he saw these lines, these lineae on the surface of Mars, to him it was just obvious they were canals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And that was experimental bias playing out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

He was told, for one, that he had basically the greatest eyesight out of any of his peers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

An ophthalmologist had told him that in Boston, that his eyesight was absolutely spectacular.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So he just was convinced everything he saw was real.