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David Kipping

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

The second one would be unbounded avoidance capacity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So I might see a UFO tomorrow and then the next day and then the next day and then predict I should see it on Thursday at the end of the week, but then I don't see it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But I could always get out of that and say, well, that's just because they chose not to come here.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

They can always avoid future observations fairly easily.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

If you survey an exoplanet for biosignatures and you don't see oxygen, you don't see methane, that doesn't mean there's no one living there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

They could always be either tricking their atmosphere, engineering it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

We actually wrote a paper about that, how you can use lasers to hide your biosignatures as an advanced civilization.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Or you could just be living underground or underwater or something where there's no biosignatures.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So you can never

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

really disproved there's life on another planet or on another star.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It has infinite avoidance.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And then finally, the third one is that we have incomplete physical understanding of the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So if I see a new phenomena, which Boyajian star was a good example of that, we saw this new phenomena of these strange dips we'd never seen before,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It was hypothesized immediately this could be aliens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It's like a god of the gaps, but it turned out to be incomplete physical understanding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so that happens all the time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

In the first pulsar that was discovered, same story, Jocelyn Bell somewhat tongue-in-cheek called it Little Green Man 1 because it looked a lot like the radio signature that was expected from an alien civilization.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But of course, it turned out to be a completely new type of star that we had never seen before, which was a neutron star with these two jets coming out the top of it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

That's a challenge.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Those three things are really, really difficult in terms of experimental design for a scientist to work around.