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David Kipping

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

going beyond that, maybe in our lifetimes, towards the end of our lifetimes perhaps.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I think it's technically possible, as Breakthrough Starshot are giving us a lot of encouragement with, to maybe send a small probe to the nearest stars and start actually taking high-resolution images of these objects.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

There's only so much you can do from far away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And we can see it in the solar system.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I mean, there's only so much you can learn about Europa by pointing Hubble Space Telescope at it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But if you really want to understand that moon, you're going to have to send something to orbit it to hopefully land on it and drill down to the surface.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so the idea of even taking a flyby and doing a snapshot photo that gets beamed back, that doesn't even have to be more than 100 pixels by 100 pixels, even that would be a completely game-changing capability to be able to truly image these objects.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And maybe at home in our own solar system, we can certainly get to a point where we produce crude maps of exoplanets.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

The ultimate limit of what a telescope could do is governed by its size.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so the largest telescope you could probably ever build would be one that was the size of the Sun.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

There's a clever trick for doing this without physically building a telescope that's the size of the sun, and that's to use the sun as a gravitational lens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

This was proposed, I think, by Von Eschlerman in 1979, but it builds upon Einstein's theory of general relativity, of course, that there is a warping of light, a bending of light from the sun's gravitational field.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And so a distant starlight, it's like a magnifying glass.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Anything that bends light basically can be used as a telescope.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It's gonna bend light to a point.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Now, it turns out the Sun's gravity is not strong enough to create a particularly great telescope here because the focus point is really out in the Kuiper Belt.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It's at 550 astronomical units away from the Earth, so 550 times further away from the Sun than we are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And that's beyond any of our spacecraft have ever gone.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So you have to send a spacecraft to that distance, which would take...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

30, 40 years, even optimistically improving our chemical propulsion system significantly.