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David Kipping

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I guess like a Turing test problem, like if it's

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

displaying all those properties, if it quacks like a parrot, looks like a parrot, or quacks like a duck, isn't it basically a duck at that point?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So yeah, I can see that argument.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It probably...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I mean, certainly I try to think about it from the observer's point of view as an astronomer.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

What am I looking for?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Whether that intelligence is conscious or not has little bearing, I think, as to what I should be looking for when I'm trying to detect evidence of them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It would maybe affect their behavior in ways that I can't predict.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

But that's, again, getting into the game of what I would call xenopsychology of trying to make projections about the motivations of an alien species is incredibly difficult.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

And similarly, for any kind of artificial intelligence, it's unfathomable what its intentions may be.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

I mean, I would sort of question whether it would even be interested in traveling between the stars at all.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

If its primary goal is computation, computation for the sake of computation, then it's probably going to have a different

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

It's going to be engineering its solar system and the nearby material around it for a different goal if it's just simply trying to increase computer substrate across the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

If that is its principal intention, to just essentially convert dumb matter into smart matter as it goes, then I think that would come into conflict with our observations of the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

Because

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

the Earth shouldn't be here if that were true.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

The Earth should have been transformed into computer substrate by this point.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

There has been plenty of time in the history of the galaxy for that to have happened.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#355 โ€“ David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds

So I'm skeptical in the part that that's a behavior that AI or any civilization really engages in, but I also find it difficult to find a way out of it.