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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So fusion is what powers the universe.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Fusion is what happens in stars and it's where the vast amount of energy that even that we use today here on earth comes from the process of fusion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

It also is what powers plants and those plants become oil and those become fossil fuels that then

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

powers the rest of human civilization for the last hundred years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so fusion really underpins a lot of what has enabled us as humans to go forward.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

However, ironically, we don't do it actively here on Earth to make electricity yet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so fundamentally what fusion is, is taking the most common elements in the universe, hydrogen and lightweight isotopes of hydrogen and helium, and fusing those together to make heavier elements.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

In that process, as you combine atomic nuclei and form heavier nuclei, those nuclei are slightly lighter than the sum of the parts.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And that comes from a lot of the details of quantum mechanics and how those fundamental particles combine and interact.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We also talk about the strong nuclear force that holds the atomic nucleuses together as one of the fundamental forces involved in fusion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But that mass defect...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

E equals mc squared, we know from Einstein, is also energy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so in that process, a tremendous amount of energy is released.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And the actual reactions, I think, is a lot more interesting than simply it's a little bit lighter and therefore energy is released.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But that's the fundamental process in fusion is you're bringing those lightweight atomic nuclei, those isotopes together.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Fission is the exact opposite, where you're taking the heaviest elements in the universe, uranium, plutonium, things that are so heavy and have so many internal protons and neutrons and electrons that they're barely held together at all.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

They're fundamentally unstable or radioactive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And those elements are very close to falling apart.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And as they do that, if you take a uranium-235 or a plutonium-239 nucleus and you add something new, usually it's a neutron, a subatomic particle that's uncharged, that unstable, that very large nuclei will then break into pieces, many pieces, a whole spectrum of pieces.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But if you add up all of those pieces, they also have slightly less mass.

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