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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so they're on a scale that we can see and measure and understand really intuitively.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And in a magnetic system, your goal is to simply trap it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

as many of these particles as you can for long enough and heat them so they're hot enough so that they bang into each other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

They collide enough that you're doing fusion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And you're doing enough fusion to overcome as fast as you're losing those particles.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so that's what happens when you put particles in a magnetic field and you try to hold on to it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

The challenge is...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

that's really hard to hold onto them long enough.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

These particles are moving around, they're moving at very high velocity, millions of miles per hour, they're colliding with each other, and they're getting knocked off and getting knocked away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So we've talked about inertial fusion, where you try to confine a fusion plasma by crushing it as fast as possible, and magnetic fusion, where you just simply have a magnetic field and your goal is to hold onto it for as long as possible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But there's another way to do fusion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And in some ways, it's one of the earliest approaches for fusion that was successful.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

As scientists and engineers, maybe we're not too creative with the terminology.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We call the technique that Helion uses magneto-inertial fusion because it does a little bit of both.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So to understand that, we can actually go back in history a little bit and think about the evolution of some of these approaches to fusion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so from our perspective, we look at the technology that we use as built on physics experiments that were very successful in the 1950s.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And in those systems, the earliest pioneers of fusion said, I know we understand the physics.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We have to take these gases, heat them to 100 million degrees and then confine them, push them together so that fusion happens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so what is the best way to do that?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So some of the earliest programs, we call them the theta pinch.