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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

FRC, field reverse configuration programs, both at national labs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

There's actually a number of private companies now of people building field reverse configurations.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And they have some really unique properties.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But fundamentally, talking about the main difference, I described solenoid with magnetic fields throughout the center of that volume and plasma trapped

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

going back and forth.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But some other things can happen, which is really interesting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And what they discovered early is if they have field going in one direction, so the plasma, the electrical current is going around the loop, and the plasma is going back and forth along this magnetic field line inside that solenoid, inside that theta patch.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But then they changed the direction of the magnetic field.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And this is what we call field reversal.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And this is really the key is that you start with the plasma going in one direction and then very rapidly you change the direction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

You change the direction and reverse the direction of that field.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And something really interesting happens, which is the plasma, this fusion fuel, these charged particles, which are trapped on the magnetic field lines that are moving back and forth,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

you change the direction.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

What that means is that you're trying to take that electrical current and that magnetic field and reverts its direction, flip it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But it can't flip fast enough that the plasma is sitting there and you can't move the particles.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so what's really interesting is what happens is that because the particles can't move, but you've now flipped the direction of the magnetic field, you've inverted it, something really, really unique happens, which is that the plasma itself reconnects internally.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so now what you're left with is an outside magnetic field, an electrical coil, and inside the plasma, where now it was before it was moving along, it's now moving internally.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

It sounds wild.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Mm-hmm.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

You have to reverse the electrical current faster than a million degree, which is a very hot gas particle, can move.