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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We are not limited now to having a very skinny top.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We can actually make it much bigger.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So the good analogy here is if you have a coin and you know you're spinning that coin, if you spin it faster and faster, it'll stay spinning longer.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

However, eventually it'll slow down and fall over.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But if you had a roll of duct tape, if you had something thicker and heavier and longer...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

and it's spinning around that same axis, it'll stay spinning even longer, both because of the inertia and because of the geometry.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we have this parameter called S star over E. S star is the hybrid kinetic parameter, which tells you how stable it is from that top point of view, and the E, which is the elongation of how long it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so maybe fortuitously, thank you nature, gave us a win here, which is that how we make these in these long solenoids is naturally very, very long.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we can build these with very long lengths.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And if we can drive them fast enough and hard enough and drive the ions

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

to move at very high velocities, we can stabilize against those instabilities and hold them stable.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we now know we can design with a given S star over E parameter, we can design these for very long lives.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

The theory of the systems we make say that they should last for a few microseconds at most.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

us and others in the field have been able to make them last for thousands of microseconds, thousands of times what the stability, the basic criteria would tell you.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we know now how to do this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we just designed them with this built into them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

It's a great question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So it is a requirement of the system is that you must design it with this parameter in mind.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

The hard part is you have to design it with S star over E being satisfied the whole time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And here's the extra trick here.