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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So as these switches are conducting, they broadcast a signal that says, yes, I'm electrically conducting an optical signal, fiber optics, that come back to a central repository where we detect those signals.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so real-time, we're monitoring all of this so that we know that these systems are behaving and operating at their optimal performance.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Yeah, the operation of a fusion system is pretty fascinating because all of this happens on a time scale where human operators cannot really be involved.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so you have to have pre-programmed the majority.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We call them shots.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

You're going to do a shot.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And when you're operating them repetitively and you're running long periods of times, you still have all computers doing both the triggering and the measuring of how they're performing real time, the whole time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so how this typically works, at least in our systems, is that we will design a system with a combination of, with some numerical simulation tools that we've developed based off of decades and decades of amazing government programs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

National lab programs developed these numerical codes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We use a kind of a code called an MHD, Magneto Hydrodynamic Code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And that's for people, for the engineers out there who are used to CFD, computational fluid dynamics.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

This is very similar.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

You take the same sets of equations, actually, and add the electromagnetic equations on top of those.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so you get magnetohydrodynamic.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We have multiple codes at different levels because one of the main computational challenges is, amazingly, even given all that we have built for fusion systems, computers are still not fast enough to simulate everything.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so we have a number of codes that we use.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

One we call fluid codes, where you treat the ions, the electrons, all these fusion particles, you treat them as fluids, as gases, ideal gas law with electromagnetic forces.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

In those, we can simulate not just the fusion fuel, which is important, but all of the electrical circuitry.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

We talked about capacitors and magnetic coils and the electrical current and the switches.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Well, we actually simulate the full thing, starting literally with the SPICE model.