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David Kirtley

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

What it is not a measure of how much energy you put into the system and what happens to that in terms of you started this campfire with a blowtorch.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

What about all that blowtorch energy?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

What are you getting for that?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so I think that's something that high beta is one more measure

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

side benefit that it turns out is actually maybe the tail that wags the dog is that not only do you at high efficiency get out any of the new fusion energy, which is great because that's what you want, make electricity from fusion, but you also get to recover all of that magnetic energy you put back into it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And that's the really powerful one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And that's something that folks have demonstrated over 95% efficiency, that you can put electricity into fusion and then get that electricity back out at 95% efficiency and

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

plus some very high efficiency, maybe 80%, maybe higher, of all the fusion product electricity too.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So now you're just making a tremendous amount of electricity in one of these systems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And that has all kinds of performance and engineering benefits that are really powerful.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

But it also pushes you to other fuels.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Mm-hmm.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So we talked about how deuterium and tritium fuels make this neutron, which leaves the system to boil water, to run steam turbines, but it doesn't push back on the magnetic field.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

So in one of these high beta systems, it's actually not a great fuel at all.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And so the other fuels that are out there are even more interesting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

And one of the candidate fuels that's really interesting is called deuterium and helium-3.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Now, we talked about deuterium, heavy hydrogen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

Well, helium-3, the nucleus is also called a helium.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

That's why we named the company that, is light helium, which is a normal helium, which is what you find in a balloon.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#485 โ€“ David Kirtley: Nuclear Fusion, Plasma Physics, and the Future of Energy

It's two protons, two neutrons.