David Kirtley

And there are things I don't know.

I'm like, let's just be totally honest.

As we're going to go build these things, we're going to discover new hard problems.

If we're not doing our job, if we're not discovering new hard problems, we probably didn't push hard enough.

We probably didn't push fast enough.

Um, and, and I think that's, that's really critical, um, that, that we build the team, um, and we do the hiring to make sure that like the, everybody is, is doing that problem.

Now that doesn't mean it's not a hard, a hard challenge and to keep folks motivated.

Helion now is over 500 people, but when we built Trenta, we're 50 people.

So now there's, you know, over 300 humans working at Helion that didn't see us, uh,

build a system from a computer model, bring it online and do fusion with it.

But even already for Polaris, there are lots of humans that started for our seventh generation system.

When we were running Trenta doing fusion, they were able to see that, see the measurements, know we were doing fusion, but yet this next machine was just a simulation.

And so seeing that get built, seeing that, it's just awe-inspiring for folks.

And I'll tell you, the first time that it comes online and flashes pink and you see that Fusion glow, it's awe-inspiring.

I love that.

Everybody changes their desktop, their Windows desktop backgrounds to now the Fusion background, the Plasma glow.

How can you actually see it?

It's a couple of things.

So one, to get access to it, we have windows.

We have small windows all the way around that we look into it with cameras, spectroscopy, lasers, other kinds of scientific diagnostics that we use to measure.