David Kirtley

We know this can be done.

And so for fusion, the call is there and the market is there too.

If you can get electricity generators cheap enough, then it's worth doing.

And so if we can get to that, if we can get to making a generator a day, you're not now talking about hundreds a year and you're deploying and deploying them is, is also hard at this scale.

Um, how do you go and deploy power plants and deploy generators at this scale and do it quickly?

Interestingly, data centers are a little bit of a nicer challenge in that way, because we wouldn't build one 50 megawatt system and have to go build a site for it.

We would build a site and put 100 of them on that site and have large amounts of power for that large data center.

And so that in some ways is actually in the chicken and egg problem of how do you go deploy hundreds or thousands of fusion generators?

Data centers are an interesting application where very immediately you need a lot of power in a very small area and you can go do that.

Now, what does that mean?

That means I'm gonna need more than two conveyor belts.

That's for sure.

So the Kardashev scale, Kardashev type one civilization is when humans are either catching or generating as much power as what's incident on the earth from the sun.

Type two is the next big one where you're catching as much energy from all the way around the sun.

So massive amounts of energy.

And a lot of times people talk about it as energy.

incident, as in you had solar panels the size of the entire planet blocking all of the sun.

But I think really you should be thinking about it as, what can we generate?

What can we make here on Earth?

And what we know is that we're only a fraction right now of Kardashev Type 1, and we've got some work to do.