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David Kyle Johnson

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The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And the thing is, he's asking questions that a smart person should ask.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

The thing is, they were asked decades ago and answered, and he just doesn't appear to know that.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

So he writes, so my position is, if these machines are not conscious, what more could it possibly take to convince you that they are?

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The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

So that's, again, that's an old question.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

I answered that question many times on my own blog over the last 20 years.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

You need to know something about the process.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

You can't know by the output alone.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

Because a sophisticated enough magician can fool you with the, right, you have to know that magic's not real to know that the magician's not using magic.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

In this case, I think where the analogy breaks down is I think that a conscious machine is possible.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

I'm not saying it's impossible.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

It's just that LLMs are not programmed to be conscious.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

They are programmed to mimic language.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

So I would need to know something about the process.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And then he goes on toβ€”I'll finish up with this.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

He asks, again, another really interesting philosophical question, but one that he seems to be unaware of.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

There's a long conversation about this that's already happened.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And that is, but now, as an evolutionary biologist, I say the following.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

If these creatures are not conscious, then what the hell is consciousness for?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

So what's he talking about?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

I don't know.