David Marchese

They were just enraptured watching it.

And I thought...

The takeaway of this movie, even though there are things that are subversive about it and things that are sort of politically and societally and culturally critical about it, the takeaway of this movie is that Barbie dolls are cool.

Like, maybe it ironically— A critique of the thing can also still be an advertisement for the thing.

Right, right, right.

Yeah, yeah.

Just something to think about.

Yeah.

You know, I sort of twice was trying to lead up to, like, a bigger kind of, like, final encapsulation question about how, you know, the idea that we've, you know, kind of are talking about the story of you in various ways.

But I think I might save that because we're talking again, and I know you have to split very shortly.

Yeah.

We only have so many tricks.

It's hard.

It's another card we're going to play every time.

But I'm going to end in a different way.

Okay.

I was just reading a book last night by this –

Really brilliant psychoanalyst and writer named Adam Phillips.

And there's one offhand thing that he had in there that I thought that would be a good question to ask someone.

Cool.