David Marchese

But you're bringing this up as an example of sort of an ideological position you held that has changed.

And I'm more curious about

ideological positions that you might hold today that don't seem in line with contemporary conservative orthodoxy.

Like you're saying the purity test thing is kind of outdated.

Give me an example.

Right, also a libertarian position.

Anti-free trade.

You gave two examples, drug decriminalization and tariffs that kind of are, like I pointed out, in line with sort of a libertarian slant to your thinking.

Yeah.

And it's clear from reading your books that there has been kind of a libertarian thrust to your political thinking.

And it's very easy to make the argument that President Trump's policies are problematic when it comes to libertarian politics.

I don't think he's in any label.

That's-

And so my question though is, knowing that you do have this kind of libertarian slant, are there aspects of what President Trump is doing that give you pause or cause for concern?

Are there things that President Trump does that infringe on people's freedoms?

You worked for a long time in men's health, at Men's Health Magazine, and then also you worked at Prevention Magazine.

Yes.

And I'm curious to know, given that experience, and you're familiar and had seen a lot of health fads come and go, what you make of the MAHA movement, Make America Healthy Again.

Yeah.

Um, given your skepticism about that, doesn't it seem like there's a lot that's ripe to be made fun of with the Maha movement and, and anti-vax stuff?