David Marchese

It's something, actually, I have it written down.

You say that hypocrisy is the primary experience of American life.

And I'm curious about how your own hypocrisy has shown up

Is there a contradiction that you could tease out for us?

I do have a bunch of more politically oriented questions, questions about core, but I feel like it would be totally abrupt to move to those questions now.

So I'm going to save those for when we speak again in a few days.

But thanks for taking all the time today.

And I'll talk to you again in a few days.

After the break, Sean and I speak again about the unsettling times we're living in and his reaction to Charlie Kirk's killing.

Good morning.

So, you know, I think when we spoke last time, I said I was going to hold the political questions for this follow-up.

So that's what I'm going to do.

And we're just going to start in kind of a heavy place because I don't know how to

get into it more easily.

Sure.

So, you know, we're talking again just a couple days after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, which is just another demoralizing event in what feels like the ongoing degradation of civic life in America.

I know that

People's mileage may vary, to put it mildly, with your political opinions, but I do know that you take being an American citizen and what it means to be an American seriously.

So I want to know how you understand this moment.

Well, it depends what they believe, right?