David McCloskey

Well, let's get down to the brass tacks of what we're talking about when I mentioned the investigative journalism example, right? So,

Well, let's get down to the brass tacks of what we're talking about when I mentioned the investigative journalism example, right? So,

Well, let's get down to the brass tacks of what we're talking about when I mentioned the investigative journalism example, right? So,

recruiting a source what does that actually mean that actually means i'll just make up a hypothetical here that actually means that maybe you're going and finding a russian who has access to somebody in the kremlin and that russian um you know hates his boss and has um is in debt right

recruiting a source what does that actually mean that actually means i'll just make up a hypothetical here that actually means that maybe you're going and finding a russian who has access to somebody in the kremlin and that russian um you know hates his boss and has um is in debt right

recruiting a source what does that actually mean that actually means i'll just make up a hypothetical here that actually means that maybe you're going and finding a russian who has access to somebody in the kremlin and that russian um you know hates his boss and has um is in debt right

We're paying, we might pay that person if we can get in front of them and sort of convince them that this could be done securely. We're paying that person to commit treason. to tell us things they shouldn't tell us. So in effect, the day to day work of the CIA is breaking foreign laws. I mean, that is the sort of the definition of what we're doing.

We're paying, we might pay that person if we can get in front of them and sort of convince them that this could be done securely. We're paying that person to commit treason. to tell us things they shouldn't tell us. So in effect, the day to day work of the CIA is breaking foreign laws. I mean, that is the sort of the definition of what we're doing.

We're paying, we might pay that person if we can get in front of them and sort of convince them that this could be done securely. We're paying that person to commit treason. to tell us things they shouldn't tell us. So in effect, the day to day work of the CIA is breaking foreign laws. I mean, that is the sort of the definition of what we're doing.

It very rarely involves shooting and car crashes and all the stuff you see on TV, but at its most basic level, we are, you know, it's an organization committed to convincing other people to commit treason in many respects. Sometimes for reasons we would consider noble, sometimes for reasons that are more mundane or even kind of gross in some cases.

It very rarely involves shooting and car crashes and all the stuff you see on TV, but at its most basic level, we are, you know, it's an organization committed to convincing other people to commit treason in many respects. Sometimes for reasons we would consider noble, sometimes for reasons that are more mundane or even kind of gross in some cases.

It very rarely involves shooting and car crashes and all the stuff you see on TV, but at its most basic level, we are, you know, it's an organization committed to convincing other people to commit treason in many respects. Sometimes for reasons we would consider noble, sometimes for reasons that are more mundane or even kind of gross in some cases.

But that is the core of the work, is stealing secrets.

But that is the core of the work, is stealing secrets.

But that is the core of the work, is stealing secrets.

The U.S. intelligence community, I think, technically has like 16 or 17 entities inside it formally.

The U.S. intelligence community, I think, technically has like 16 or 17 entities inside it formally.

The U.S. intelligence community, I think, technically has like 16 or 17 entities inside it formally.

and if that sounds like a ridiculous number it's because it probably is it can be overall very bloated i think there's probably too much overlap and redundancy between many of these groups but you know for simplicity's sake take a couple of the bigger organizations so the the cia the central intelligence agency is our sort of premier uh foreign intelligence agency meaning we are

and if that sounds like a ridiculous number it's because it probably is it can be overall very bloated i think there's probably too much overlap and redundancy between many of these groups but you know for simplicity's sake take a couple of the bigger organizations so the the cia the central intelligence agency is our sort of premier uh foreign intelligence agency meaning we are