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David McCloskey

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

I'm sorry.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And Mendez has deep connections in Hollywood.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Yeah.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Yeah, the propaganda piece is its own – it's honestly probably its own set of episodes because it's such a fascinating thing.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

I was struck just in looking into this a bit that the Office of Strategic Service, the forerunner to the agency, had film units that shot footage of the concentration camps after they were liberated.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

It was actually used at Nuremberg and 12 OSS officers died while filming combat.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

to use those in filming for propaganda purposes.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So there's a whole separate kind of thread there.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

But the propaganda connections are not what produces the Argo operation.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

This is much less about propaganda and much more about technical expertise.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Because from the early 70s onwards, the CIA's Office of Technical Service, which is Mendez's crew, has started contracting with Hollywood makeup artists, special effects builders, prop designers, even stage magicians to solve operational problems that Langley can't crack on its own.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And one of the central contractors is this guy named John Chambers, who again is played by John Goodman in the film.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Mendez calls...

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

uh chambers jerome calloway throughout his memoir because when mendez was writing chambers had not yet passed

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Chambers, sort of like Goodman in the film, is a larger-than-life character in real life.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He's got his hair slicked back with a thick sheen of pomade on it.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Mendes described him as looking more like a bouncer than a makeup artist.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He wears white short-sleeved shirts and black ties.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He's got a big pinky ring.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He drives a big yellow Pontiac.