David McCloskey

who kind of sit between the case officers and the analysts would probably look at the fourth hand information and say, we're gonna keep this in ops traffic so that people could look at it, but you'd have a hard time citing it in a piece of finished production for one of our customers.

It all comes down to that sourcing chain because you could have a credible sourcing chain that's fourth hand.

It just tends to, in an intelligence context,

it's harder to kind of put it out there because there's a greater likelihood that it's potentially broken down somewhere.

Well, I think if an intelligence agency wanted to, it's not like I would imagine the English national team had...

tremendous amount of security associated with their you know the food supply i mean we talked about the team doctor who's kind of keeping tabs on it but i would imagine it could be as simple as having an asset or an access agent who works at the hotel you know i mean and and in that case you would have a sense of okay where's the stuff being stored how's it coming in and

And that person would be able to help kind of create.

I mean, we talk, Gordon, we do stories about assassinations.

We talk about building up a pattern of life.

You do something similar here where you'd see how is the team, what do they do day to day?

How does that food come in?

Where is it kept?

And then you look for a vulnerability where someone who has access to the hotel might be able to tamper with it.

It's not particularly complicated if you have someone who has access to the hotel.

Oh, I think so.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, you could also, I suppose, if you didn't have a local access agent of some sort, you could send someone in who's maybe ostensibly there to watch World Cup matches and who's come from the United States or what have you.

I mean, I think the point is you would need someone who could, the ideal would be someone who actually works at the hotel, who is being paid to do something and maybe they don't even know what they're doing.

But that's the idea.

You could also have someone who shows up at the hotel for a stay and kind of monitors things as a guest.