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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Because on one level, you think, okay, well, the Russians and the Chinese aren't going to like this.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

You think the Chinese have energy and mineral deals with Venezuela.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Chinese private buyers are the biggest customer of Venezuelan oil.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

There's question marks over sort of

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

These deals, the, you know, sort of resource extraction from Venezuela that the Chinese have been conducting, I think, big question mark over that.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

There have been protests, of course, from Beijing about the removal of Maduro.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

You know, Russia also has deals or had deals with him.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

So I guess at one level, you don't like it.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

On the other level, though, you do wonder if the assertion of, I don't know, almost kind of spheres of influence, to some degree, you know, if you're

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

us getting there at some point, maybe in the not so distant future.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Maybe let the Russians do what they want in Ukraine and let the Chinese do what they want in Taiwan.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

We're not there yet.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Again, I want to be clear.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

But this kind of the logic of a US backyard where we do what we want could suit other great powers as well.

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

I think the other potentially big losers would be

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

anti-American strongmen throughout the rest of the Western Hemisphere, right?

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

Because Trump has already made clear that, you know, Cuba, which has benefited from sort of below market pricing on Venezuela oil, you know, and had supplied the bodyguards for Maduro, many of whom presumably were

The Rest Is Classified
115. Intelligence Scoop: Why Venezuela Isn’t About Oil (Ep 2)

were killed.