David McCloskey
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She's actually received a stolen document from the National Security Agency at this point.
She's actually received a stolen document from the National Security Agency at this point.
She's actually received a stolen document from the National Security Agency at this point.
If you put yourself, Gordon, in Greenwald or Poitras' shoes. What do you do? I'm fascinated with this as someone who's inside the CIA and knows that if someone had sent me a top secret document, I would have to report it immediately to security and kind of There's a whole procedure. But as a journalist, I mean, what's the play here, right?
If you put yourself, Gordon, in Greenwald or Poitras' shoes. What do you do? I'm fascinated with this as someone who's inside the CIA and knows that if someone had sent me a top secret document, I would have to report it immediately to security and kind of There's a whole procedure. But as a journalist, I mean, what's the play here, right?
If you put yourself, Gordon, in Greenwald or Poitras' shoes. What do you do? I'm fascinated with this as someone who's inside the CIA and knows that if someone had sent me a top secret document, I would have to report it immediately to security and kind of There's a whole procedure. But as a journalist, I mean, what's the play here, right?
I mean, so you've got a document that's really interesting. And then you have a source who says, I want you to go meet me in Hong Kong. There's probably no playbook here.
I mean, so you've got a document that's really interesting. And then you have a source who says, I want you to go meet me in Hong Kong. There's probably no playbook here.
I mean, so you've got a document that's really interesting. And then you have a source who says, I want you to go meet me in Hong Kong. There's probably no playbook here.
And I think, right, that Hong Kong is suspicious solely because it's part of China, right? So it immediately casts kind of this shadow over the leaks because it, at first blush, could make it look like he's under the control of or sort of being influenced by maybe the Chinese intelligence services.
And I think, right, that Hong Kong is suspicious solely because it's part of China, right? So it immediately casts kind of this shadow over the leaks because it, at first blush, could make it look like he's under the control of or sort of being influenced by maybe the Chinese intelligence services.
And I think, right, that Hong Kong is suspicious solely because it's part of China, right? So it immediately casts kind of this shadow over the leaks because it, at first blush, could make it look like he's under the control of or sort of being influenced by maybe the Chinese intelligence services.
I think it also does show a bit of Snowden's naivete in the signal that this move would send to these journalists, right? Because it does immediately โ and this is one of the things that's going to color a lot of the stories โ The movement out of the United States really casts a pall over him, right?
I think it also does show a bit of Snowden's naivete in the signal that this move would send to these journalists, right? Because it does immediately โ and this is one of the things that's going to color a lot of the stories โ The movement out of the United States really casts a pall over him, right?
I think it also does show a bit of Snowden's naivete in the signal that this move would send to these journalists, right? Because it does immediately โ and this is one of the things that's going to color a lot of the stories โ The movement out of the United States really casts a pall over him, right?
Even if there aren't facts to substantiate the fact that he's working for the Chinese intel services or later the Russians, just that sheer movement makes it harder for Poitras and Greenwald to kind of defend him.
Even if there aren't facts to substantiate the fact that he's working for the Chinese intel services or later the Russians, just that sheer movement makes it harder for Poitras and Greenwald to kind of defend him.
Even if there aren't facts to substantiate the fact that he's working for the Chinese intel services or later the Russians, just that sheer movement makes it harder for Poitras and Greenwald to kind of defend him.
And in this case, so he basically has gone to his supervisor at the NSA facility in Hawaii, says he needs to be away from work for what he'll say is a couple of weeks to receive treatment for epilepsy, which has kind of been an ongoing medical problem for him throughout his career.
And in this case, so he basically has gone to his supervisor at the NSA facility in Hawaii, says he needs to be away from work for what he'll say is a couple of weeks to receive treatment for epilepsy, which has kind of been an ongoing medical problem for him throughout his career.