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David McCloskey

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

So to not go through some of those channels, I just think, man, that's an irresponsible decision.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

Well, and I'll just again, add to my, Deadly sin number one on Edward Snowden's track record of fabrication was one of the documents that he's going to take or one set of documents he's going to take in this 2012 period, mid 2012. He's going to steal the test and the answer key for a job inside a group at NSA called TAO, Tailored Access Operations, which is essentially in that era.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

Well, and I'll just again, add to my, Deadly sin number one on Edward Snowden's track record of fabrication was one of the documents that he's going to take or one set of documents he's going to take in this 2012 period, mid 2012. He's going to steal the test and the answer key for a job inside a group at NSA called TAO, Tailored Access Operations, which is essentially in that era.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

Well, and I'll just again, add to my, Deadly sin number one on Edward Snowden's track record of fabrication was one of the documents that he's going to take or one set of documents he's going to take in this 2012 period, mid 2012. He's going to steal the test and the answer key for a job inside a group at NSA called TAO, Tailored Access Operations, which is essentially in that era.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

is the NSA's elite hackers, the guys and girls who go out and try to access, really hard to access networks of our foreign adversaries. And Snowden applies for this job, but he's already, I mean, this is where I think you do get this kind of jumbled set of motives

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

is the NSA's elite hackers, the guys and girls who go out and try to access, really hard to access networks of our foreign adversaries. And Snowden applies for this job, but he's already, I mean, this is where I think you do get this kind of jumbled set of motives

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

is the NSA's elite hackers, the guys and girls who go out and try to access, really hard to access networks of our foreign adversaries. And Snowden applies for this job, but he's already, I mean, this is where I think you do get this kind of jumbled set of motives

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

for why he's taking all these documents because I guess he could have chanced upon this and then thought, well, I've got the test, I might as well apply. But he also does have some very mercenary potential motives for some of these document thefts. But he takes this test and... of course, passes it with flying colors, right? Because he's got all the answers.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

for why he's taking all these documents because I guess he could have chanced upon this and then thought, well, I've got the test, I might as well apply. But he also does have some very mercenary potential motives for some of these document thefts. But he takes this test and... of course, passes it with flying colors, right? Because he's got all the answers.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

for why he's taking all these documents because I guess he could have chanced upon this and then thought, well, I've got the test, I might as well apply. But he also does have some very mercenary potential motives for some of these document thefts. But he takes this test and... of course, passes it with flying colors, right? Because he's got all the answers.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And then he gets offered, and again, I think this is a great insight into his personality, because he gets offered a job working inside TAO, which by the way is a premier, inside NSA is a premier job to have. Gets offered a GS-12, government scale 12 role inside TAO and turns it down Because he felt he should have been offered a GS-15 salary.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And then he gets offered, and again, I think this is a great insight into his personality, because he gets offered a job working inside TAO, which by the way is a premier, inside NSA is a premier job to have. Gets offered a GS-12, government scale 12 role inside TAO and turns it down Because he felt he should have been offered a GS-15 salary.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And then he gets offered, and again, I think this is a great insight into his personality, because he gets offered a job working inside TAO, which by the way is a premier, inside NSA is a premier job to have. Gets offered a GS-12, government scale 12 role inside TAO and turns it down Because he felt he should have been offered a GS-15 salary.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And this, again, it's absolutely fascinating because you just... Let's get into some of these facts around how this guy behaved and who he is. He's 29 at that point. And I mean, it's a little bit different kind of depending on the agency. But... It would probably have taken a really competent โ€“ no, he joins when he's 23. He gets into the secret world.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And this, again, it's absolutely fascinating because you just... Let's get into some of these facts around how this guy behaved and who he is. He's 29 at that point. And I mean, it's a little bit different kind of depending on the agency. But... It would probably have taken a really competent โ€“ no, he joins when he's 23. He gets into the secret world.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And this, again, it's absolutely fascinating because you just... Let's get into some of these facts around how this guy behaved and who he is. He's 29 at that point. And I mean, it's a little bit different kind of depending on the agency. But... It would probably have taken a really competent โ€“ no, he joins when he's 23. He gets into the secret world.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

It would have taken 14, 15 years, something like that, for a competent person to rise to the level of GS-15. Yeah. He's been in for six and he's already thinking, well, I should have my 15. Anyway, he turns down the TA role and stays in Hawaii. But there's some really interesting aspects to this guy's character that I think get left out of the geography.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

It would have taken 14, 15 years, something like that, for a competent person to rise to the level of GS-15. Yeah. He's been in for six and he's already thinking, well, I should have my 15. Anyway, he turns down the TA role and stays in Hawaii. But there's some really interesting aspects to this guy's character that I think get left out of the geography.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

It would have taken 14, 15 years, something like that, for a competent person to rise to the level of GS-15. Yeah. He's been in for six and he's already thinking, well, I should have my 15. Anyway, he turns down the TA role and stays in Hawaii. But there's some really interesting aspects to this guy's character that I think get left out of the geography.

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44. The Leak That Changed The World: Stealing State Secrets (Ep 2)

And in everyday life, Gordon, well, they usually are. But not spies. Data brokers. Quietly collecting your personal information, building detailed profiles, and then selling them on without a warrant and without any warning.