David McCloskey

checks yeah once you're in the system right once you're kind of inside you're cleared yeah obviously if you were carrying a garbage bag of documents out yeah someone might stop him but if you're carrying an sd card or if you have you know 30 pages of documents or something in a briefcase or a bag, no one's checking this stuff. You could just walk out.

And it actually, I mean, I remember every day leaving CIA, kind of going through this process, and it was a little stressful actually, of trying to check all of my bags and stuff to make sure that I wasn't carrying anything out on accident that was highly classified. And that kind of thing happened all the time. I mean, I had

And it actually, I mean, I remember every day leaving CIA, kind of going through this process, and it was a little stressful actually, of trying to check all of my bags and stuff to make sure that I wasn't carrying anything out on accident that was highly classified. And that kind of thing happened all the time. I mean, I had

And it actually, I mean, I remember every day leaving CIA, kind of going through this process, and it was a little stressful actually, of trying to check all of my bags and stuff to make sure that I wasn't carrying anything out on accident that was highly classified. And that kind of thing happened all the time. I mean, I had

friends who, and analysts actually tend to sweat this more than the case officers, because the case officers are out there in the world, you know, recruiting people and kind of dealing with classified stuff outside of a SCIF, you know, a secure department and information facility or vaults. I had a friend who would walk out and he walked out one time with a document he shouldn't have.

friends who, and analysts actually tend to sweat this more than the case officers, because the case officers are out there in the world, you know, recruiting people and kind of dealing with classified stuff outside of a SCIF, you know, a secure department and information facility or vaults. I had a friend who would walk out and he walked out one time with a document he shouldn't have.

friends who, and analysts actually tend to sweat this more than the case officers, because the case officers are out there in the world, you know, recruiting people and kind of dealing with classified stuff outside of a SCIF, you know, a secure department and information facility or vaults. I had a friend who would walk out and he walked out one time with a document he shouldn't have.

He was about to have a heart attack. The point is, it's easy.

He was about to have a heart attack. The point is, it's easy.

He was about to have a heart attack. The point is, it's easy.

Well, and you've just teed up my fourth deadly sin of Edward Snowden, Gordon, which is completely indiscriminate.

Well, and you've just teed up my fourth deadly sin of Edward Snowden, Gordon, which is completely indiscriminate.

Well, and you've just teed up my fourth deadly sin of Edward Snowden, Gordon, which is completely indiscriminate.

Leaking, right? So 1.5 million documents are what he takes. The vast majority, of course, unrelated documents any of the domestic kind of surveillance programs that so angered him. How high, Gordon, do you think those documents would reach into the sky if they were stacked? I don't know, but you're going to tell me. I am going to tell you. To the moon. I'm going to tell you in kilometers even.

Leaking, right? So 1.5 million documents are what he takes. The vast majority, of course, unrelated documents any of the domestic kind of surveillance programs that so angered him. How high, Gordon, do you think those documents would reach into the sky if they were stacked? I don't know, but you're going to tell me. I am going to tell you. To the moon. I'm going to tell you in kilometers even.

Leaking, right? So 1.5 million documents are what he takes. The vast majority, of course, unrelated documents any of the domestic kind of surveillance programs that so angered him. How high, Gordon, do you think those documents would reach into the sky if they were stacked? I don't know, but you're going to tell me. I am going to tell you. To the moon. I'm going to tell you in kilometers even.

So the measure that you will understand, five kilometers high.

So the measure that you will understand, five kilometers high.

So the measure that you will understand, five kilometers high.

If you stack those up. Okay. He's a system administrator. So he's got access to massive databases kind of read write delete access right so you can see all this stuff so the scraping tools that he uses to do these downloads are more or less completely indiscriminate now he does do some specific searches right but he's scraping through these databases He has no idea what's even on these.