David McMillan

That wouldn't be a disaster.

And even if they were asking what it was they were smuggling, I'd say, well, think of the worst thing you can imagine.

Plutonium.

Just anything that would take it out of their mind.

You don't want to think about that.

You'll never see it anyway.

And if you come to grief, you have the choice then.

The best lawyers, your time in prison will be surprisingly comfortable if that's what you want.

But I'm hoping you'd say, David, get me the hell out of here.

And I'll come in and get you out, and I'll really enjoy that.

Again, there is a technique that even the most featherweight of people can protect themselves because I was found that

People fear what they don't know.

You know, you'd meet somebody for business and say, look,

the people now i mean they really depend on me for a living and they come from a bit village and if something goes wrong they'll kind of they won't really ask anything much they just have a handful of photos and start tearing up when they see any of them and shoot them all so uh let's try and not you know rock the boat on this one you know so the idea of

kidnapping me and wringing money out of me was not somebody would be very reckless to take that on because they just didn't know where this unseen enemy might come from and of course anybody who's really capable of doing anything you certainly don't want to look the part

Certainly, the more, when I say respected, more professional of killers I've met certainly never looked the part.

I don't know, you're too young, but there was a guy called Jim Baisley.

He was Australian.

Jim, you would never expect to look.

He looked like a kind of grandfatherly type.