David McWilliams

Really extraordinary about a Mexican family, a mother and daughter, and their...

journey to the United States for paying all the cartels and the violence and the extraordinary risk these people take.

Cruelty of it.

Oh God, yeah, absolutely.

So again, human smuggling, right?

And then just general extortion, John.

Basically going up

You're a commoner gardener.

You're a commoner gardener extorting money out of businesses.

Probably about $1.3 billion is extorted from like fellas with taco vans and things like that, you know?

Yeah.

And so it's endemic.

97% of all extortion by the cartels goes unreported in Mexico because people are terrified of them because they kill people in their thousands.

Oh, we've seen that.

And of course, then the general prostitution, weapons, frauds, all sorts of fronts for frauds, taxi businesses, laundrettes, all that sort of, especially, John, avocados, which is one of the great money laundering fronts of Mexico.

Really?

Because you can make your drug money legal if you can be seen to actually have massive avocado farms.

So it's all linked.

And of course, the thing is that

The cartels are now getting involved in niche industries like telecom, right?