David Nasralla

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So what normothermic machine perfusion allows you to do is to put much more hard objective numbers into that decision making. So it keeps it alive, we can measure it, and it improves it too? It probably improves the liver. It's difficult to say definitively that it does, but what we see after the liver has been transplanted is that the way the recipients behave is as if they have received a better liver. David put me in touch with one of his patients, Lisa Pengelli.

The cows look like they're having a good time. Every cow really takes part voluntarily. Beforehand we select only the cows that generally seem willing to join in. For them it's fun. Sometimes during training they can actually run very fast. But on race day some of them don't feel like it at all and that's fine. If a cow doesn't want to run, she doesn't.