David Pakman

And that phrasing, I think, matters a lot.

I think, you know, Trump is, in a sense, deliberate when he wants to signal something without saying it.

And if he really backs someone up, he just goes phenomenal.

Absolutely phenomenal.

He doesn't leave any ambiguity.

He's hedging.

He goes, Yeah, sure.

Sure.

She thinks a little bit differently than I do.

And she's not so concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon.

I'm strong on that.

She's a little soft on that.

He's creating a record.

He's putting together a way to later say we were never completely aligned.

I told you, you know, we weren't exactly on the same page on Iran and nukes.

And her thinking is a little bit different here.

I think that this is major because this is about one of the foremost issues of Donald Trump's presidency.

Both terms together, this war in Iran, nuclear weapons, the posture that the United States should take in a potentially huge inflection point type situation.

Tulsi built a reputation around being more cautious with regard to intervention.

She fell for the claim that Trump is the, you know, antiwar guy or whatever.