David Pierce

I got nothing else going on.

Just call me.

You say I'm here.

So I've brought you here for a very special occasion, which is that we're running this episode on the first day of The Verge cast being a daily show.

And I both want to talk to you about kind of the state of posting and making things online as somebody who's been doing it for a very long time and was very early to a lot of the things people are doing now.

I also need some therapy about how this is all going to go for me and how to do it without dying.

But I want to start with sort of the state of things because we've spent

We've spent a lot of time talking on this show about the clip economy and kind of the race for everybody's attention and the ability to just chop everything you make into a thousand little pieces and put it everywhere in front of people and sort of win the attention game that way.

You were thinking about how to post a lot way before most people were thinking about how to post a lot.

And you were like in 2015, you're like, I'm going to start making stuff every single day and I'm just going to put myself in front of people.

What was the impetus behind that all those years ago?

Yeah.

But I still think there's something in that insight of like, not just I'm going to make a bunch of videos and promote my startup, which I think is a...

relatively normal insight to have had in 2015 but there's something about just the sheer volume play of it that it seems like even existed in your head then you're just like I'm going to do this and then again and then again and then again and I'm going to keep doing this there must have been some kind of idea about like this must add up to something

in your own work, because I know a thing you've talked about before is sort of struggling with, um, when this thing becomes about me, how much of me do I share with you?

And how much do I sort of make this about me all the time?

And that starts to feel uncomfortable, but also like the thing that makes me itchy about what you just said is the part of me that goes, okay, well now I'm,

I can get to a point where actually you're coming here to see me and not this good work that I've done, which is just like as a reporter feels weird, but also just like makes it feel like I'm terrified that I'm going to start doing a bad job because there's no pressure because it's just sort of a hang we have every day.

And I feel like running against that

feels like a hard thing to do.