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David Reich

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And in 5% to 10% of the random people they sequenced around 4,000 or 5,000 years ago, there was Yersinia pestis, which is the agent of the Black Death.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But actually, without the

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

without the plasmid that contributes to bubonic plague that's required for flea rat transmission.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So it must have been, for example, pneumonic plague with the aerosolized transmission or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But five to 10% of random deaths means that actually the percent of people who were dying must have been even higher.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

higher because they weren't detecting everything that was there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

A study by another group, Johannes Krauss and colleagues, of people in plague pits in London from the 1300s epidemic found that when you apply this method to people we know died of Black Death, you only find a quarter of the people, so the rate was even higher.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

If people are bacteremic when they die, if they have bacteria in their teeth, they probably or almost certainly died of that agent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So a paper just came out a few weeks ago in Scandinavia looking at these tombs from about 5,000 years ago of farmers who were just on the verge of encountering people from the steppe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And a huge fraction of them have black death when they die.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They're buried in tombs and normal, even higher than 5% or 10%.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So this whole pedigree with many, many generations, so it's not all at the same time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Just like the parents, generation to generations, a very large fraction, like well more than 10%, have black death and have Yersinia infection.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So it looks like this particular agent has been killing...

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

people for 5,000 years, four or 5,000 years in Western Eurasia, and in fact is killing, like, a scarily large fraction of the population.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Like, as a quantitative person, which I am reading this literature, I think people are embarrassed by the implication.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

The implication is that

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

a third, a quarter, a half of deaths in this entire period are from this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It's so unbelievable, so ridiculous that such a high proportion of people over such a long period of time are dying from this one agent that people don't even say it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They just publish one paper after the other, publishing more sequences, and they just don't think about the implications of such a high rate of death.