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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

intelligence or actual studiousness or something like that, you should think again because there's many things that it's correlated to.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

There seems to be some kind of general trait that maybe you could think of as executive function or maybe propensity to defer gratification or something, or I make just waving my hands that is under selection and it pushes all these traits in the same direction one way or the other.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And in different times in the past, it's advantageous or disadvantageous.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

But when we found this signal of years of schooling being increased, the genetic propensity to go to school for more years, as it manifests itself in people, in white British people today, when we found the signal, we were sort of incredulous.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Like, how could this be?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Maybe this is a problem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So we did a few tests to try to figure out whether this was real.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And one of the tests we did is we looked for a study where this measurement of the numbers of years of school was done not in Europeans,

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

but was done in Chinese people in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And we looked at variants that had the effect size of many variants as they affected the number of years of school in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And we saw whether they had a relationship, a correlation to the trajectory of those same genetic variants in Europeans over the last 10,000 years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So these are two parts of the world where the populations have been essentially completely disconnected.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And there's no way by chance that the trajectory in Europeans

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

over the last 10,000 years will have anything to do with the number of years, the effect on the years of schooling in China today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

But there's actually a huge statistical correlation, a five or six standard deviation correlation between the effect size of variance, a number of years of school in China today, and the trajectory in Europe, just as strong actually as the effect size of variance in Europeans today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

to the trajectory in Europeans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So we just could not see a way this could happen by chance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And once we saw that, we really felt quite convinced that this was a real signal and that really somehow there has been natural selection to increase the genetic changes that today manifest themselves as predicting more years of schooling.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

I think that that's a great question.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

As we talked about before, the human selection is very effective.