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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And we hoped that as the numbers of samples would increase and we would get higher resolution to be able to appreciate differences in frequencies over time, we hoped that this would make it possible to detect far more.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And what was quite disappointing over the subsequent decade is that that didn't happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So, for example, the largest study of that type in 2024 by a group in Copenhagen analyzed the data, much better data than we had in 2015, and found only 21 positions that were highly different in frequency across time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And while that was exciting, it was almost twice as many as we had found in 2015.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

In a lot of ways, it was disappointing because the sample size and data quality had gone up so much, and yet this is all that was found.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And so what that suggested is that we might be hitting an asymptote, and we might not be able to get beyond where we currently were, and that this approach to learning about biology, which was very promising in theory, might actually not produce a high yield.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

But maybe, in fact, natural selection was quiescent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And in fact, the reason we're seeing so few changes is that actually there's not been a lot of adaptive directional selection yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So that was the situation we found ourselves in until just a few years ago when we carried out this study in our research group led by Ali Akbar.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So what we did is we deployed a few innovations or change to try to improve our power to detect natural selection.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

One of them is we just pumped a lot of data into the system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And so we increased the amount of data by about 14 fold.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And the main thing that we do in this study is we report data in this study from about 10,000 individuals with new data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So this is like a very big increase in the amount of data in the literature.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And the total data set size of ancient individuals distributed over the last 18,000 years is about 16,000 people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So this is a large data set.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

It's much larger than was previously possible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And when you have more data,

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

you can estimate frequency changes with much more subtlety.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And the data comes from only one part of the world, which is Europe and the Middle East.