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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And what we did is we looked at maybe a hundred or so traits where there had been genome-wide association studies for all sorts of different traits, like ones associated with immunity or autoimmunity or behavior or metabolism and basically other things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And for each of these, we could ask, are the genetic variations that are known to affect these traits from genome-wide association studies, do they have an unusual number of genetic selection signals?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And what we found is there was a vast enrichment by about a four or five-fold for immune traits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

That is, there was a super concentration of selected signals in immune traits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Whereas also we saw a strong enrichment for metabolic traits, things that might impact your obesity or fat traits or type 2 diabetes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And really almost no detectable enrichment, as far as we could tell, for behavioral traits or for psychiatric traits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So it might seem from the results of that analysis that, in fact, immune traits are highly selected and that there's been no selection for behavior in the last 18,000 years in this part of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

But in fact, that's a wrong conclusion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And in fact, we have evidence that that's a wrong conclusion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And in fact, there's clear evidence of selection also on behavioral traits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And the reason we think we see, and we have evidence that this is so, much weaker signals for behavioral traits is that behavioral traits we know from other studies, medical studies, are underpinned by much larger numbers of genes than genes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

immune traits, which are underpinned by relatively small numbers of genes of strong effect.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Behavioral traits are shaped genetically by very large number of genes of weak effect, and we just don't have the statistical power to detect these very weak signals there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So when we do an analysis where we look at our very strong signals of selection,

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

That collection of very strong results is very effectively querying the immune traits, but is not very effectively querying the behavioral traits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

It may still be the case, and I guess it is, that immune traits are the most selected category, but it is not at all the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And in fact, we can prove it's not the case that behavioral traits are not selected.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So we think there's two reasons why natural selection hasโ€”we've been able to prove, really, that there's two reasons whyโ€”how to reconcile the previous observations with our new observations.