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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And it interacts with the local people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So, for example, if you look at the first modern humans of African and Near Eastern origin who get to, for example, Europe, where we have the best data, we have a number in Western Siberia where we have the best data so far.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

We have a number of these very early ones from about 45,000 to 40,000 years ago, which are called initial Upper Paleolithic humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And a good fraction of them have had Neanderthal ancestors in their last two to four to eight generations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So that's a kind of crazy result.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So we have only a couple of dozen or a dozen or so of these very early humans and a very large fraction of them recently mixed with Neanderthals in their ancestry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

A model that might explain the data is that you have sparks coming out of a kind of forest fire in the Middle East or the Near East of humans expanding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They come in and they start going to places like Western Siberia or parts of South Asia or parts of Europe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They mix with the Neanderthals and they produce these mixed populations like these initial upper Paleolithic groups we sample in the record, and they all go extinct.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

including the modern human ones.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

There's just extinction after extinction after extinction of the Neanderthal groups, of the Denisovan groups, and of the modern human groups.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But the last one standing is one of the modern human groups, and that's what we happen to see.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so the interbreeding event that we see, the great majority of the ancestors of modern humans, for example, in Eurasia, are not from the initial upper Paleolithic ones, but from a later wave from the core in the Near East after 39,000 years ago that re-people a place that's been

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

sort of affected by these sparks coming out of the same region.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And those groups too disappear.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

I don't know if that model- I think that that's probably right at some important level.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

I think it's not a triumphal march of superiority and inferiority with the group that now comes in having

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

advantages somehow establishing itself permanently.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

I think that what you have is a very complicated situation of many people coming together and natural disasters or encounter with animals or encounter with other human groups resulting in an almost random process of who