David Remnick

But what I'm asking you, can Oklahoma ever become –

Purple or blue?

Forgive me.

Doesn't your language on your show, does that invite or alienate people who are, as it were, red?

You're not, by the way.

You're not running for anything.

You told Kara Swisher you'd rather make you living on your back than as a politician.

That's a pretty good Sherman statement.

Jennifer Welsh is host of the podcast, I've Had It, along with Angie Sullivan.

That's the New Yorker Radio Hour for today.

I'm David Remnick.

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