David Remnick

Everybody and their uncle apparently has a podcast at this point.

How did you conceive of this show?

Where does it fit in?

What is it?

Right, where you're from.

You're MAGA-coded because of where you're from?

Was political discussion a big part of your upbringing in Oklahoma?

Yeah.

Who was pretty left, right?

I mean, it's social death for you.

You've got this podcast now with the background that you've got.

What do you see as its distinguishing feature?

What's it about?

And you're trying to give – at least as I listen to it –

Give voice to that sense of frustration.

Some of your recent episodes on your podcast have these names, and not all of them will be able to make it on conventional radio.

No Country for Mega Men, New Year Same Assholes, Ring Out the Bullshit, Merry Griftmas, Fascism But Stupid, and finally, All the President's Morons.

I think that's a different mood, say, than Pod Save America.

Give me some examples and tell me who your allies are in that.

So when you look at the guys on, and it's almost all guys, on Pod Save America, do you look at them as very 2016, very 2008, very Obama, and you've left that behind?