David Remnick

And it's pretty desperate.

My guess is that you speak to people there as best you can.

But tell me what it's like.

The responsibility for that failure is at the feet of the Cuban government, at the feet of the United States.

Where do you place it?

the state of Florida and its politics has been for years influenced by Cuban Americans.

Right.

And the usual stereotype of that is that they're quite conservative, especially on this issue.

Are they still?

Now, Cubans fleeing the Communist Party had enjoyed protected status immigrating to the U.S., but now we're deporting record numbers of Cuban people with some of those Cold War protections revoked.

What do Cuban Trump supporters think about that?

About a decade ago, Barack Obama as president visited Havana and he removed Cuba from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.

That's a decision that Donald Trump eventually reversed.

That was a moment of real optimism, both in Cuba and in the United States about Cuban-American relations.

How were those moves received at the time and how are they remembered among Cubans today, that moment a decade ago?

And now seems the polar opposite.

I mean, I have to think if you're sitting in Havana today or anywhere in Cuba and you watch what happened in Venezuela.

and you listen to Marco Rubio and others talk about the imminence or almost inevitability of American action in Cuba, the sense of anxiety has to be really horrible.

But I want to be clear about what you're saying.

You're saying people would welcome a change.