David Sachs

you know, the wholesale deleting of Department of Agriculture, Department of Education at a federal level and move all that stuff to the states. What do you think is going to happen here? And how hard will the machine fight back against this in your mind?

you know, the wholesale deleting of Department of Agriculture, Department of Education at a federal level and move all that stuff to the states. What do you think is going to happen here? And how hard will the machine fight back against this in your mind?

Because, hey, you might have some Republicans, some Democrats, they fought really hard to get jobs, to get subsidies, to put in factories, whatever from the federal government. Are they going to just give that all back? The clip is from 1998, by the way. Zach, your thoughts?

Because, hey, you might have some Republicans, some Democrats, they fought really hard to get jobs, to get subsidies, to put in factories, whatever from the federal government. Are they going to just give that all back? The clip is from 1998, by the way. Zach, your thoughts?

I think the easiest thing for them to get done with Doge is the naming, the shaming, the auditing, the transparency of what we're actually spending. Because so many of the audits, Chamath, are just not completed. People don't know what's being spent.

I think the easiest thing for them to get done with Doge is the naming, the shaming, the auditing, the transparency of what we're actually spending. Because so many of the audits, Chamath, are just not completed. People don't know what's being spent.

And if you show Americans a $12,000 hammer or people with job titles not coming into the office or coming into the office one day a week, one day a month, That's going to infuriate taxpayers. And I think there's a very easy way to navigate all this.

And if you show Americans a $12,000 hammer or people with job titles not coming into the office or coming into the office one day a week, one day a month, That's going to infuriate taxpayers. And I think there's a very easy way to navigate all this.

You just create the leaderboard and you not only shame people who are wasting our tax dollars, you celebrate the people who are heroes, who start showing frugality and cost saving. And they're going to do this with the leaderboard of the heroes and the goats. This could be the unifying, not just the Republican Party, as Sachs is pointing out, Chamath, I think this could unify the whole country.

You just create the leaderboard and you not only shame people who are wasting our tax dollars, you celebrate the people who are heroes, who start showing frugality and cost saving. And they're going to do this with the leaderboard of the heroes and the goats. This could be the unifying, not just the Republican Party, as Sachs is pointing out, Chamath, I think this could unify the whole country.

Is there anybody paying taxes? That wants to see money wasted that wants to see us pay people high salaries to not come to work? Shamath, what's your take on the sequence of events here? What are easy layups that they can actually get done? And then where is the machine going to fight and try to stop this thing?

Is there anybody paying taxes? That wants to see money wasted that wants to see us pay people high salaries to not come to work? Shamath, what's your take on the sequence of events here? What are easy layups that they can actually get done? And then where is the machine going to fight and try to stop this thing?

I mean, just to build on that, cutting all the regulations to zero, you might throw out some babies in the bathwater. So why not put a clock on them and just say, whenever this was enacted, plus five years, and then it rolls off, or plus two years, whatever number of months, and then you could have them, Chamath, rolling off every month to be reassessed.

I mean, just to build on that, cutting all the regulations to zero, you might throw out some babies in the bathwater. So why not put a clock on them and just say, whenever this was enacted, plus five years, and then it rolls off, or plus two years, whatever number of months, and then you could have them, Chamath, rolling off every month to be reassessed.

People die. Paradigms shift. And then nobody even remembers these regulations. You have to do archaeology to figure out who created this, what was the intent, and you would never do that. You would never live, Sachs, with all of these rules forever.

People die. Paradigms shift. And then nobody even remembers these regulations. You have to do archaeology to figure out who created this, what was the intent, and you would never do that. You would never live, Sachs, with all of these rules forever.

Well, Chamath, I'll hand this over to Freeberg. Freeberg, if you... were to get rid of regulations as somebody working in the government, you might work your way out of a job.

Well, Chamath, I'll hand this over to Freeberg. Freeberg, if you... were to get rid of regulations as somebody working in the government, you might work your way out of a job.

So the incentive is completely perverse and reverse to what we actually need in the country, which is less regulation, more thoughtful regulation and some process by taking these things on and off the books and adapting them to reality. Yeah.

So the incentive is completely perverse and reverse to what we actually need in the country, which is less regulation, more thoughtful regulation and some process by taking these things on and off the books and adapting them to reality. Yeah.