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David Sachs

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So just on electricity, I actually think that if we allow the data centers to stand up their own power generation, it will actually bring down rates.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Not only will it not increase residential rates, it'll bring it down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And it'll do that in two ways.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

One is that the data centers can give or sell power back to the meter when they have excess.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So that will help bring down rates.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Second, there's a lot of fixed costs

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

involved in power generation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It's not all variable.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So when you're able to amortize those fixed costs over a greater supply, you bring down the meter rate for everybody.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And so there's huge economies of scale.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So the more scale you get in electricity, like most other things, the price comes down.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So it's actually a good thing that

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

the that we have this build out going on because it will ultimately reduce prices for consumers.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

But we do have to make sure that these new data centers aren't just plugging into the grid and using they have to be contributing back.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Well, it's interesting.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

I think there's been an evolution.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So I think we started with AI chatbots like ChatGPT.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And in a sense, that was kind of like better web search.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It was really great for research.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

You could ask it questions and give you answers to anything.