David Sacks

But Future of Life is one of these EA-funded Doomer think tanks, and they've got something like a billion dollars.

Vitalik Buterin donated $600 million of dog coins to... Anyway, you guys, I mean, this is one really weird sort of quirk about our media environment is we have these EA-funded think tanks with literally billions of dollars.

You know, it's guys like Dustin Moskovitz and...

But hold on, let me just finish my point because you've got these, let's call them Doomer think tanks funded by these EA billionaires.

They have literally billions of dollars.

You can influence a lot of public discourse.

with that a lot.

And they are behind a lot of the NIMBY stuff around data centers.

They've been spreading a lot of the FUD around data centers, increasing your electricity prices, which again, I think is a solved problem now because the users, the AI companies have agreed to pay for the incremental costs

and stand up their own power generation.

They've been spreading a lot of stories about water usage, which is just totally made up.

I mean, the modern data centers recirculate water.

So they don't use up water.

But again, you've kind of got these doomer groups who are just trying to stop AI however they can.

And they're extremely well-funded, and they're having a big impact.

And I think, actually, this is one of the reasons why you're seeing in the U.S., again, that AI, I think, is basically the least popular thing they can poll for, except for the Democratic Party and Iran.

And by the way, FLI, the Future Life Institute, they also fund journalism fellowships and endowments of publications.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

He pulled a J. Cal?