David Sacks

Secondly, I think that there's a deep amount of external energy that's fueling this anti-technology sentiment in the United States and has been for decades.

Secondly, I think that there's a deep amount of external energy that's fueling this anti-technology sentiment in the United States and has been for decades.

I think to Gavin's point, I don't think it's just China with NGOs today.

I think to Gavin's point, I don't think it's just China with NGOs today.

I think that there is a long history

I think that there is a long history

of state actors intervening in media activities in foreign nations to try and create the sentiment and fuel a sentiment that reduces progress in that competitive state.

of state actors intervening in media activities in foreign nations to try and create the sentiment and fuel a sentiment that reduces progress in that competitive state.

I think this goes all the way back to KGB design.

I think this goes all the way back to KGB design.

during the Cold War, and it's been refined and honed and improved over time.

during the Cold War, and it's been refined and honed and improved over time.

This is not just some conspiracy theory.

This is not just some conspiracy theory.

There are plenty of great books about this.

There are plenty of great books about this.

The techniques of what's going on specifically today, I don't know enough.

The techniques of what's going on specifically today, I don't know enough.

I don't have any great details on that.

I don't have any great details on that.