David Sacks

That's actually gonna be the next key piece here.

This is why I think Apple is just the dark horse in this entire race.

If there is an open source product that can run on this hardware, the M5s, the 48 gigs, 128 gigs, the new Mac Studio coming out with supposedly a terabyte, that changes the whole game.

And this is so paradoxical, Bill, that our adversary, the Chinese, of all people, the Communist Party, is leading the open source movement.

And the United States is centralizing.

Yeah.

Look, Jake, I agree with you about the importance of open source because open source means software freedom.

You can run the program yourself on your own hardware.

You don't have to

share you don't have to give up your data sovereignty you don't have to give up your privacy to again to some monopolist who's going to be you know in bed with the government or the deep state right so that's the thing we're all afraid of and if that's the only ai that's available is from the you know monopoly or duopoly

than your choices are to live off the grid and not participate in the modern economy or give up control, right?

To some social credit system.

So I think the open source is really important.

And by the way, that was Elon's instinct in creating open AI.

He was afraid that Google was gonna monopolize AI.

So he's like, let's create,

open ai so that it's not dominated by a single company but that that is i think the right answer here is i know people want to i think their instinct to the idea of powerful ai is to clamp down and just control it but actually you have to have multiple players that's the only way you're going to be protected is is to have multiple players

Is there an issue right now with we don't have a good harness for open source?

I mean, the way that like Claude is a...

Harness for Opus 4.7.