David Sacks

When they say they're getting rid of measurers, you can take them at their word.

When they say they're getting rid of middle managers,

No, it's AI washing and scapegoating.

That is, you've given your position already, I'm giving mine.

My position is, they are obsessed with this technology, they're obsessed with earnings, and they will continue that.

Now, on the other side of the ledger, I believe we'll have a Cambrian explosion in startups, and all this talent, if they embrace the tools, to Bill Gurley's point, are going to be able to solve more problems and create small companies of five or ten people who are laid off from Amazon or Meta, and make...

double their salary or have a better job that they control.

I believe that is going to be the ultimate solution, but that transition is going to be extremely painful.

And we should have some humility on this fucking podcast for the people impacted.

Every cab driver's losing their job.

Every truck driver's losing their job in the next 10 years.

Anybody sorting packages is losing their job.

Then you can say all you want, Shamath.

You can say all you want.

Hold on, let me finish my thought.

You can say all you want, Shamath, that those people don't want those jobs, but they may need those jobs.

And you are an elitist by definition.

We are all elitists on this program.

We are elite performers.

And these people are going to lose their jobs and they may not get a job very quickly.